tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post3728933299050684718..comments2023-12-28T02:11:22.501+00:00Comments on The Streatham & Brixton Chess Blog: It's Nice To Be Nice . . .Tom Chivershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09850710685193416732noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-56117514817958434022007-06-28T18:26:00.000+01:002007-06-28T18:26:00.000+01:00I once played someone for the third time. I won th...I once played someone for the third time. I won the first, he won the second but was miffed that I complained he wasn't writing his moves down in my time trouble. In the third encounter I won a piece but required the usual tidying up. At the time control I nipped off to the loo for no more than a minute or so. Upon my return I bumped into him making a hasty exit. He mumbled something about he had to go and I returned to the board to see the pieces set up. He doesn't play for that team (Maidenhead) anymore and they don't seem to miss him at all.<BR/>AndrewAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-26547747667568978432007-06-28T17:52:00.000+01:002007-06-28T17:52:00.000+01:00I ALWAYS shake hands with an opponent after a game...I ALWAYS shake hands with an opponent after a game - no matter how much of a [word banned by blog editor] he might be.<BR/><BR/>I can remember a couple of occasions when my opponents have sulked after I've beaten them and have refused to shake hands for no reason whatsoever.<BR/><BR/>Last time I dealt with this by calling him a [word banned by blog editor] to his face.<BR/><BR/>Very satisfying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-2461005955537623682007-06-28T12:26:00.000+01:002007-06-28T12:26:00.000+01:00Of criticism, no - provided of course they themsel...Of criticism, no - provided of course they themselves are allowed to answer back, which I think is what causes the problem in football, for instance.ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-40971473837777504232007-06-28T12:05:00.000+01:002007-06-28T12:05:00.000+01:00Moro refuses to shake Topalov's hand, and also to ...Moro refuses to shake Topalov's hand, and also to say why. I think one other top player does too, possibly Pono? I'm not sure though. Maybe a handshake should be made a required formality, I don't know. Sometimes I forget at the end of a game though, or forget if I've done it or not, and end up doing it twice. I don't really object to the handshake convention, of course.<BR/><BR/>Should officials be protected from criticism though? Of that I'm not so sure.Tom Chivershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09850710685193416732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-2543057105020193912007-06-28T11:39:00.000+01:002007-06-28T11:39:00.000+01:00Wasn't there an incident with Topalov and Morozevi...Wasn't there an incident with Topalov and Morozevich?<BR/><BR/>It's also possible that they've decided that as major sports <I>do</I> have these guidelines, so should they: entering the twenty-first century, that sort of thing. I've no objection to a code of conduct though I would surely have breached any such code many times had it existed in the past....ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-12383692893450168982007-06-28T11:04:00.000+01:002007-06-28T11:04:00.000+01:00Now that would make chess more a spectator sport A...Now that would make chess more a spectator sport Angus...<BR/><BR/>Justin - well, yes. But I guess I am wondering what prompted this announcement from FIDE. Is it the refusal of Kramnik/others to shake hands with Topalov? Or Short's baiting of Azmai?Tom Chivershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09850710685193416732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-31881820081733622142007-06-28T08:07:00.000+01:002007-06-28T08:07:00.000+01:00Hmm. Is one obliged to shake hands with a Sun jour...Hmm. Is one obliged to shake hands with a <I>Sun</I> journalist? I have done, but at the time I didn't know he was one....<BR/><BR/>That said, I don't think it's necessary to view this as some kind of nefarious scheme by FIDe. For some reason this is considered <I>de rigeur</I> in nearly all chess commentary and yet there is nothing exceptional about the requirement to adhere to given norms in relations with players and officials - it'd happen in any other sport, as it does in football or golf, albeit on very different levels in either case.<BR/><BR/>I do think it's damaging to chess commentary in general that the starting point for any discussion of anything FIDE does is "what evil scheme are FIDE up to?". Àn official, for insatnce, isn't likely to be a corrupt associate of Kirsan's - they're more likely to be some hardworking amateur whom a professional player uses as a verbal bouncing board during a dispute.<BR/><BR/>It would be helpful to consider this in context - what sort of things have been going on that might make this helpful or necessary, <I>would</I> it be helpful and necessary and so on. My view is that you really shouldn't be obliged to shake hands with anybody if you don't want to, but if somebody said "is it really that much of an imposition?" could I really disagree?ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-85927922033274761882007-06-27T23:12:00.000+01:002007-06-27T23:12:00.000+01:00"or greets the opponent in a normal social manner ..."or greets the opponent in a normal social manner in accordance with the conventional rules of their society"<BR/><BR/>Should that be "or who does not greet..."?<BR/><BR/>But then I'm wondering about the "conventional rules of their society" bit... and thinking: bring on the Mauri GMs <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbJr_kwOeRg" REL="nofollow">for their welcomes</A>.<BR/><BR/>AngusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com