tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post5168307555543368261..comments2023-12-28T02:11:22.501+00:00Comments on The Streatham & Brixton Chess Blog: Department of A Likely Story: The Great Chessboxing SwindleTom Chivershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09850710685193416732noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-6950210257460964352009-06-21T14:59:20.840+01:002009-06-21T14:59:20.840+01:00I was there - Rikardson definitely played at 150+ ...I was there - Rikardson definitely played at 150+ level which is impressive given he had to box as well. For Wandowsky probably 1850 is about right although he did play the Grob...<br /><br />AnnoniemouseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-76772542989252168282009-06-20T20:54:13.725+01:002009-06-20T20:54:13.725+01:00To be honest I'd much rather see chessdrinking...To be honest I'd much rather see chessdrinking gaining in popularity (and I'm sure Morgan will concur).ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-54722087634181323492009-06-20T17:59:00.158+01:002009-06-20T17:59:00.158+01:00Quite right, Chris. This is why my father suggest...Quite right, Chris. This is why my father suggested that one ought to have to make a certain number of moves in each round of chess -- perhaps eight or so in the first round and then half as many in following rounds.Morgan Danielshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04964054143509110236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-51838528131376348272009-06-20T12:42:41.646+01:002009-06-20T12:42:41.646+01:00Seems to me you could be a very bad chess player, ...Seems to me you could be a very bad chess player, and still win at Chess Boxing if you were a big punching boxer. Just don't make many chess moves and knock the other guy out before your flag falls.Chris Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06137795192239495971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-32483821635142390632009-06-20T09:34:38.663+01:002009-06-20T09:34:38.663+01:00Incidentally James and Adam weren't the only c...Incidentally James and Adam weren't the only chessplayers at the <a href="http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/chessbox0409.html" rel="nofollow">event</a> since I know some other people went to see Matthew Read.<br /><br />I assume the bout James refers to is Wandkowsky - Rikardson: oddly, though Rikardson is credited with a rating of 1975 on a <a href="http://camp.wcbo.org/fighters/konrad-rikardson" rel="nofollow">chessboxing listing</a> he doesn't seem to appear on the FIDE list nor - if I am looking at what I think I am looking at - the <a href="http://www.schacksm2009.se/Deltagare.html" rel="nofollow">Swedish rating list</a>. Wandkowsky was <a href="http://www.myspaceprofiles.org/profiles/53106923.html" rel="nofollow">reckoned</a> to have a Elo of 1850 last year but unless I am mistaken he too fails to appear on the FIDE list and nor can I find him on the <a href="http://www.schachbund.de/" rel="nofollow">site</a> of the German chess federation (though my German is minimal and better-educated readers are invited to do better).<br /><br />Happily, Sebastian Bauersfeld appears to have a FIDE rating of 1901.ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-3766781202344069402009-06-20T08:46:10.319+01:002009-06-20T08:46:10.319+01:00a rather larger number of articles by journalists ...<i>a rather larger number of articles by journalists rather too quick to believe what they're told and what they've seen in other journalists' articles.</i><br /><br />Talking of why there's so much chess boxing in the press compared to 'reality':-<br /><br />Nick Davies' <a href="http://www.flatearthnews.net/" rel="nofollow">Flat Earth News</a> may have something to tell us. He's researched the mainstream print news media and found much of it is just rehashed (or even unrehashed) press releases or news agency material.Jonathan Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00293162543015231439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-50785103536522376392009-06-20T08:19:55.167+01:002009-06-20T08:19:55.167+01:00a lot of the chess and boxing were not very good t...<i>a lot of the chess and boxing were not very good though still entertaining</i><br /><br />I think this is the crux: serious chessplayers aren't going to want to box in the middle of their games and serious boxers won't want to play chess. This is why the utter unlikelihood of chessboxing ever taking off as anything other than a freak show (and probably not even that) seems to me to be a statement of the obvious.<br /><br />Re: the interest of women, Mr Read's comments in the <i>Metro</i> piece linked to appear to refer to people taking part, not spectators. (There are always a lot of women <i>spectators</i> at boxing matches.)ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-70092194637800007942009-06-19T23:09:25.403+01:002009-06-19T23:09:25.403+01:00Wasn't the Bethnal Green thing the one Morgan ...Wasn't the Bethnal Green thing the one Morgan went to?Jonathan Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00293162543015231439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-58020661741441040662009-06-19T22:23:30.844+01:002009-06-19T22:23:30.844+01:00I attended a ChessBoxing event at Bethnal Green Wo...I attended a ChessBoxing event at Bethnal Green Working Mens Club recently (btw: it had been advertised on Chessbase) out of curiousity and a love of almost all things chess (I enjoy boxing also but hadn't been to a live fight before). Apart from Malcolm Pein, whose instructive, witty and innuendo-laden chess commentary went down a storm with the fairly evenly male/female ratiod crowd, the only other 'serious' chess player I encountered was Adam Raoof. There were 4 bouts and a lot of the chess and boxing were not very good though still entertaining. The final bout, featured a Swede v a German, both rated over 1900 and both their chess and boxing was good and exciting. The place was crammed with people enjoying the event immensely.<br /><br />James McDonnellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-69665703379683693042009-06-19T22:21:07.895+01:002009-06-19T22:21:07.895+01:00Bob Noyce 189 (inactive).
Apparently asking peopl...Bob Noyce <a href="http://grading.bcfservices.org.uk/getref.php?ref=116328A" rel="nofollow">189</a> (inactive).<br /><br />Apparently asking people the time is an international thing - everybody's worked out that it's the way to find out, from their accents, whether the people you're considering giving a kicking to are from abroad/some other region/where the other team are from. A mate of mine nearly got a shoeing at the European Championships in 1990 beginning with being asked whatever "have you got the time, mate?" is in Italian.ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-15834125046225584012009-06-19T21:13:50.832+01:002009-06-19T21:13:50.832+01:00I remember at BUPCA one year old Noycie entertaini...I remember at BUPCA one year old Noycie entertaining the Southampton University team over dinner by giving the details - at some length - of a fight with two guys he once managed to get into (and go on to win) that kicked off when he asked them the time.<br /><br />Happy days.Comment Moderatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15608482649497750456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-5997977781233139152009-06-19T19:58:03.134+01:002009-06-19T19:58:03.134+01:00I am good friends with Bob Noyce. He does not play...I am good friends with Bob Noyce. He does not play much nowadays but apparently he was full contact Kickboxing British Champion, one thing I know for sure he is pretty handy. He is also about 200ECF. <br />Chris Baker is another one who would be a good bet, Black Belt at Karate and an IM.<br />Maybe we could have an IM/GM all play all? Anyway for those who are interested I am running a tournament, 26th-28th June. Check out http://www.gingergm.com/big-slick-chess/ .Cheers Psycho-Cowboy (forgotten my password hence the guest status. Also a bit drunk!! improving the beer belly...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-29715320543996428572009-06-19T18:44:29.479+01:002009-06-19T18:44:29.479+01:00For what it's worth I'm pretty sure that s...For what it's worth I'm pretty sure that sooner or later somebody who's reasonably good and reasonably young will have a go at this, for a bet or in order to be able to brag about it or just to see if they can do it. And fair enough. But those will be the reasons, not because they think they're going to make a living out of it, for some very obvious reasons. Or obvious to everybody except some journalists.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />(re: JB's comments - I can, as it goes, think of at least one individual fitting my description above who I can imagine doing it and who I'd <i>like</i> to see doing it....)ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-56135836364545965412009-06-19T18:11:14.503+01:002009-06-19T18:11:14.503+01:00Lots of boxers have claimed prowess at chess Chris...Lots of boxers have claimed prowess at chess Chris -<br /><br />Frank Bruno, Lennox Lewis, Terry Marsh come to mind ... and a thought that I'm not sure about that Joe Bugner might have too.<br /><br /><br />As for Psycho-Cowboy giving it a go - perhaps we should run a competition for suggestions as to who should be his opponent. I've got a few names myselfJonathan Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00293162543015231439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-59813691790172431392009-06-19T18:07:10.515+01:002009-06-19T18:07:10.515+01:00Simon, please don't do it. A GM taking part mi...Simon, please don't do it. A GM taking part might give this stupid nonsense some cred.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-42875673051888258972009-06-19T17:27:16.641+01:002009-06-19T17:27:16.641+01:00From what I hear the Ukrainian Klitschko brothers,...From what I hear the Ukrainian Klitschko brothers, who both hold versions of the World Heavyweight Boxing Championship, are pretty handy chess players, so if there were to be a genuine World Chess Boxing Champion, I guess it would be one of them.Chris Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06137795192239495971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-21238700642266861412009-06-19T17:15:23.272+01:002009-06-19T17:15:23.272+01:00There was a guy who used to play regularly for Sou...There was a guy who used to play regularly for Southampton University (although his precise connection to the university was always a bit of a myster) back in the early 90s. He was reputed to be a fairly hardcore martial arts expert.<br /><br />Bob Noyce was his name. He was 190/200 or there abouts as I recall. He might be knocking on a bit now though.Jonathan Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00293162543015231439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-23744440324895650492009-06-19T12:22:41.138+01:002009-06-19T12:22:41.138+01:00I have to admit that I am quite tempted to give it...I have to admit that I am quite tempted to give it a bash, excuse the pun. Just got to get rid of the beer belly and get down to my local boxing club!!<br />Psycho-CowboyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-87069295777713940402009-06-19T08:52:10.935+01:002009-06-19T08:52:10.935+01:00I am rather cross that you have received an email ...I am rather cross that you have received an email from Marina Hyde but I have not.Jonathan Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00293162543015231439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-61333180370186282052009-06-19T08:20:54.830+01:002009-06-19T08:20:54.830+01:00In fairness to Marina Hyde, who I contacted about ...In fairness to Marina Hyde, who I contacted about her article, I should add that she says she didn't use the quoted phrases "entirely seriously": however, she did think that "the 'sport' is growing in popularity".ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.com