tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post9162538362895506679..comments2023-12-28T02:11:22.501+00:00Comments on The Streatham & Brixton Chess Blog: Tick Tick Tick ... IXTom Chivershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09850710685193416732noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-40272596924419224592008-09-12T16:00:00.000+01:002008-09-12T16:00:00.000+01:00EJH:No doubt we shall read all about it on Chessba...EJH:<BR/><I>No doubt we shall read all about it on Chessbase soon.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4903" REL="nofollow">Now</A> we can.<BR/><BR/>Chessbase have also just got to the Chess Boxing event we covered almost a month ago. I wonder if Speedy Malc has got involved there.Jonathan Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00293162543015231439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-51090223538465350632008-09-12T15:36:00.000+01:002008-09-12T15:36:00.000+01:00I wondered whether in closed grandmaster tournamen...<I>I wondered whether in closed grandmaster tournaments there was a practice of asking the players to leave their mobiles elsewhere.</I><BR/><BR/>At the recent Staunton Memorial players were required to leave their mobile phones on the arbiters table.Jonathan Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00293162543015231439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-22037933169783897862008-09-12T10:59:00.000+01:002008-09-12T10:59:00.000+01:00I think that's right, but given the inclusion of t...I think that's right, but given the inclusion of the requirement in the FIDE rules (and the fact that the fishtank is pretty new) I wondered whether in closed grandmaster tournaments there <I>was</I> a practice of asking the players to leave their mobiles elsewhere.ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-49852066338880310072008-09-12T10:28:00.000+01:002008-09-12T10:28:00.000+01:00There would have been no grounds, as a rueful Nige...There would have been no grounds, as a rueful Nigel knew. Nor was there a 'claim' from an embarrassed Keti. She didn't want to win that way, but has no say in the matter. She did say: "But I saw you turn it off!"<BR/><BR/>Nigel over dinner last night was pretty relaxed about it. Just one of those things. Thomas Luther felt the rule is too harsh. The rest of us felt it was unavoidably harsh. Indeed I clarified with Manuel Weeks, our TD, if my undestanding of the basis for the rule is correct. Apparently it is in every respect. Read my tournament 'blog' for the relevant explanation if you need to...<BR/><BR/>http://www.atticuschess.org.uk/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=423<BR/><BR/>As for banning mobile phones from the playing venue, this might happen in Bilbao currently where the games take place in a specially created 'fish-tank'. But we don't have the means to remove and store peoples' property in any sensible or practical way. In fact I don't believe the players think that is remotely necessary. Nor do we electronically screen them for bugging devices. If that ever becomes established practice, we may as well give up on organised tournaments because all trust will have disappeared from the game.<BR/><BR/>So Nigel did the right thing. A pained shrug, sign the scoresheet, and reflect ruefully over a cup of coffee.<BR/><BR/>David<BR/>Atticus CCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-20410508484447316822008-09-12T09:58:00.000+01:002008-09-12T09:58:00.000+01:00Up to a point, David, but had he chosen to complai...Up to a point, David, but had he chosen to complain, what would have been the grounds for his complaint?ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-28529654782094238262008-09-12T08:51:00.000+01:002008-09-12T08:51:00.000+01:00Full marks to Nigel Short. No complaints just that...Full marks to Nigel Short. No complaints just that was that and he walked away. I know, I was there.<BR/>David Bentley.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-32211321320185769992008-09-11T18:55:00.000+01:002008-09-11T18:55:00.000+01:00No but it does beep. Well mine does anyway. Not ...No but it does beep. Well mine does anyway. Not when it's switched off though (again - based on a research sample of 1 phone)<BR/><BR/>Nosher's phone was possessed I'm telling you.Jonathan Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00293162543015231439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-80737467991126582008-09-11T18:53:00.000+01:002008-09-11T18:53:00.000+01:00Does the Nokia emit its ringtone when its battery ...Does the Nokia emit its ringtone when its battery is low?ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-24339449296058644272008-09-11T18:37:00.000+01:002008-09-11T18:37:00.000+01:00EJH:No doubt we shall read all about it on Chessba...EJH:<BR/><I>No doubt we shall read all about it on Chessbase soon.</I><BR/><BR/>Not yet but the <A HREF="http://www.chessvibes.com/coverstory/nigel-short-vs-his-mobile-0-1/" REL="nofollow">vibers</A> are already there.<BR/><BR/>I'm fascinated to hear that Nosher was reading a book about Castro. Perhaps we'll get him as member of Red Star Streatham yet.Jonathan Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00293162543015231439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-35257380290337291452008-09-11T13:26:00.000+01:002008-09-11T13:26:00.000+01:00I was rather surprised the other day to find my al...I was rather surprised the other day to find my alarm sounding when the phone was actually turned off...ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-66894993775517753762008-09-11T12:49:00.000+01:002008-09-11T12:49:00.000+01:00The worrying feature is that it might now not be e...The worrying feature is that it might now not be enough to just "switch off" the phone. If that just sets it to standby ("sleep" mode), then there's a problem if it wakes up when someone sends a text or when the battery runs down. You need a consumer guide which tells you whether you need to remove the battery to ensure it won't beep, squawk or do anything embarrassing when you don't want it too.<BR/><BR/>RdCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-69281934490136556772008-09-11T11:32:00.000+01:002008-09-11T11:32:00.000+01:00I can't remember witnessing a similar occurrence o...<I>I can't remember witnessing a similar occurrence of spontaneous applause and cheering by the spectators during a session of the British Championship</I><BR/><BR/>Maybe they thought "thank God, we can all leave Torquay now"?ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-3960323754028598772008-09-11T11:27:00.000+01:002008-09-11T11:27:00.000+01:00My money is on the Doris Stokes theory. I was pre...My money is on the Doris Stokes theory. I was present when Tony beat Nigel at the British Championships in Torquay (1998) and I can't remember witnessing a similar occurrence of spontaneous applause and cheering by the spectators during a session of the British Championship.<BR/><BR/>Still, full marks to Nige for taking his medicine without complaint.Mike Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13237794157491746812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-91730824433692392622008-09-11T11:03:00.000+01:002008-09-11T11:03:00.000+01:00Quite so. I always check mine when the arbiter say...Quite so. I always check mine when the arbiter says this, even though I've usually done so some time before. (A few years working as a professional librarian does tend to help in this respect.)ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-86769556017970750952008-09-11T10:54:00.000+01:002008-09-11T10:54:00.000+01:00Normally, at the start of a tournament, the arbite...Normally, at the start of a tournament, the arbiter will remind everyone to switch their mobile phones off. This is usually treated as de facto authorization for the things to be brought into the tournament hall in the first place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-80096325176332492592008-09-11T10:07:00.000+01:002008-09-11T10:07:00.000+01:00So, if Nigel's phone didn't ring, was he authorise...<I>So, if Nigel's phone didn't ring, was he authorised to bring it into the playing venue?</I><BR/><BR/>Well, it's one of the most flouted laws in the game by ordinary players, for the good reason that leaving one's phone outside the venue, in most circumstances, would mean "getting it nicked". This may be a top-class professional tournament, but on the other hand it's an Open, not a closed tournament with just a handful of players, and I can see that it's possible they don't have the facilities to allow players to leave their mobiles somewhere secure at the venue.<BR/><BR/>I wonder what happens at Bilbao though?ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-78645656070293583302008-09-11T09:56:00.000+01:002008-09-11T09:56:00.000+01:00EJH: "Apparently... Nigel's claim is that it was a...EJH: "Apparently... Nigel's claim is that it was a battery low signal".<BR/><BR/>The relevant law of chess - article 12.2(b) - states:<BR/><BR/>"It is strictly forbidden to bring mobile phones or other electronic means of communication, not authorised by the arbiter, into the playing venue. If a player's mobile rings in the playing venue during play, that player shall lose the game. The score of the opponent shall be determined by the arbiter."<BR/><BR/>So, if Nigel's phone didn't ring, was he authorised to bring it into the playing venue? If yes, why? If no, then is a forfeit an appropriate penalty? Also, doesn't Nigel know the rules?<BR/><BR/>AngusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-29729946846139263422008-09-11T09:30:00.000+01:002008-09-11T09:30:00.000+01:00Apparently so, as Nigel's claim is that it wasn't ...Apparently so, as Nigel's claim is that it wasn't the ringtone, it was the "battery low" signal.<BR/><BR/>No doubt we shall read all about it on Chessbase soon.ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.com