tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post3562915282671377007..comments2023-12-28T02:11:22.501+00:00Comments on The Streatham & Brixton Chess Blog: Sonic Oosterom BoyTom Chivershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09850710685193416732noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-17160587081777955282008-04-11T08:02:00.000+01:002008-04-11T08:02:00.000+01:00Why not allow them to consult friends or employed ...<I>Why not allow them to consult friends or employed titled chess players as well</I><BR/><BR/>Well, basically for the reasons give in the Code of Conduct set out in the original piece.ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-27653704259298431862008-04-10T21:59:00.000+01:002008-04-10T21:59:00.000+01:00Maybe just give him a call and ask him? Or write h...Maybe just give him a call and ask him? Or write him a letter or email? Why do we assume he wouldn't tell us how it is?<BR/><BR/>I think we may assume that CC GMs own Fritz and Rybka and use it when useful. Why not allow them to consult friends or employed titled chess players as well.<BR/><BR/>What strikes me is that ``cheating'' is common in business, politics and love,<BR/>but in sports people are assumed to always play by the official rules.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-23679484669825882692008-04-10T12:06:00.000+01:002008-04-10T12:06:00.000+01:00I think it was Hans Ree who described Van Oosterom...<I>I think it was Hans Ree who described Van Oosterom as the new 'Turk'</I><BR/><BR/>Tim Krabbé?<BR/><BR/><I>and therefore as a competitive activity at the highest level, correspondence chess is 100% dead.</I><BR/><BR/>I don't see this at all, because I don't see why it's significantly easier to get somebody else to help you now than it was, say, twenty or fifty years ago.<BR/><BR/>I should stress that I don't actually know whether or not Van Oosterom is getting assistance and if so, how much and from whom. He <I>was</I> a strong OTB player i nhis youth and that's precisely the sort of person - strong, but with business commitments that make it hard to play regularly OTB - who often turns to correspondence chess and thrives.<BR/><BR/>But it really does bother me that there are questions hanging over the world champion, serious ones, and yet they are just left to hang there.ejhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01582272075999298935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-38452879308769432372008-04-10T08:25:00.000+01:002008-04-10T08:25:00.000+01:00Piket, who moved to Monaco to get a 'real' - non-c...Piket, who moved to Monaco to get a 'real' - non-chess - job.<BR/>may or may not have helped Van Oosterom with his games but it is well known in the Netherlands that for many years Van Oosterom has hired two Dutch IMs full time to work on his correspondence games.<BR/>I think it was Hans Ree who described Van Oosterom as the new 'Turk' - just a puppet who took the credit for the achievements of those behind him.<BR/>As jonathan b says, it's pathetic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-26346050482873542292008-04-09T14:34:00.000+01:002008-04-09T14:34:00.000+01:00Perhaps part of the reluctance to investigate is a...Perhaps part of the reluctance to investigate is an acknowledgement that any rule for correspondence chess that bans human assistance (or computer assistance for that matter) is entirely unenforceable and therefore as a competitive activity at the highest level, correspondence chess is 100% dead.<BR/><BR/>(Not so at the humble level I play at I'm glad to say).<BR/><BR/><BR/>While I'm here... let's say, for the sake of argument, that the fellow is getting Dutch humanoid assistance.<BR/><BR/>Imagine the implications - a man who despite his wealth and privilege has an ego so crushingly small he needs other people to believe he excels at (correspondence) chess.<BR/><BR/>That would deserve pity as much as disapproval.Jonathan Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00293162543015231439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-59930930172704601232008-04-09T13:40:00.000+01:002008-04-09T13:40:00.000+01:00I wonder what the feeling amongst top CC players a...I wonder what the feeling amongst top CC players about this issue is?Tom Chivershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09850710685193416732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37675897.post-43798539244250419222008-04-09T12:18:00.000+01:002008-04-09T12:18:00.000+01:00Sonic Oosterom boy - is that a reference to the fo...Sonic Oosterom boy - is that a reference to the forgotten group Westworld, who were the future of popular music for about ten minutes c1986?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com